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May 11, 2008 at 02:22 AM CDT

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Pan Asia 08: A Closer Look

Posted by: Racs-MC



The Underground’s dominance of the second CGS Pan Asian Finals event has been well publicized. A stronger overall team and some standout divisions helped the team to a perfect 6-0 record, however last year Pan Asia proved they were a long way behind the rest of the world with not one Asian team advancing beyond their first game at the World Finals. The Underground team is undoubtedly stronger this year, but a quick glance would also expose that many of their opposition arrived in Wuhan with a weaker or unchanged lineup. There is no doubt in my mind that the North American teams are still the pinnacle of the CGS competition and the rest of the world has a lot of work before they can hope to defeat these teams on the CGS stage. North America has a longer season, a pre-season, a greater talent pool, more exposure and overall a higher standard of competition. However this is no excuse, no matter the circumstances there will always be advantages and disadvantages and being on top has one major disadvantage, everyone else is gunning for your spot!

I’ve decided to break down the Pan Asian results for each game and have a look at which teams and players were firing in Wuhan, China. Some of these statistics are quite surprising as some of the weaker teams have bright starts within their ranks. Unlike some other sports CGS is all about team contribution and not wins and losses, for this reason I have decided to rank the teams based on their overall contribution.

NB: I/M = Impact per Match and is a measure of the average point differential posted by each team per match.

Counter-Strike Source
Without a doubt the standout team in Wuhan was the Underground boys, winning all their matches by a convincing margin and never really being troubled by the opposition. However it’s the only other team that finished with a positive contribution that is a surprise. As a franchise Dubai Mirage finished dead last however a solid performance by their Counter-Strike Source team sees them taking 2nd spot in the rankings.

Counter-Strike Source
Pan Asia Group Play 08


Team
Win
Loss
For
Against
Dif
I/M
Sydney Underground
5
0
64
26
38
7.6
Dubai Mirage
4
1
46
44
2
0.4
Singapore Sword
2
3
42
48
-6
-1.2
KL Taufan
1
4
40
50
-10
-2
Seoul Jinwha
2
3
39
51
-12
-2.4
Wuhan Dragon
1
4
39
51
-12
-2.4

Forza 2
The Wuhan Dragon duo took out top spot in Forza 2, only 1 point of the perfect score Lumi and Lewis proved they could back up their board times with some smart thinking and perfect use of the collision driven rule set. After a somewhat shaky start on the first day Cam and Morpo also managed to win the remainder of their games with the perfect 6-1 score line. The Wuhan racers managed to bag an astonishing 92% of points on offer to them at the Pan Asia event.

Forza 2
Pan Asia Group Play 08


Team
Win
Loss
For
Against
Dif
I/M
Wuhan Dragon
5
0
29
6
23
4.6
Sydney Underground
4
1
23
12
11
2.2
Singapore Sword
3
2
19
16
3
0.6
KL Taufan
2
3
14
21
-7
-1.4
Seoul Jinwha
2
3
12
23
-11
-2.2
Dubai Mirage
0
5
8
27
-19
-3.8

DOA-M
Seoul Jinwha’s DOA superstar Sarafan walks away as the only undefeated DOA-M player during the Pan Asia group stages. The Dragon’s Mindfox also put up some nice number after a very slow start to the tournament, while Berzerk managed to keep it in the positives for the Underground team. Sarafan’s dominant performance saw him only giving up 4 rounds across the 5 matches and being a key factor in Seoul’s performance during round robin play. The loss of star player Tetra left the sword trailing in a category they normally excel in and making franchise matches that much harder to win for the Singapore team.

DOA - Male
Pan Asia Group Play 08


Team
Win
Loss
For
Against
Dif
I/M
Seoul Jinwha
5
0
25
4
21
4.2
Wuhan Dragon
4
1
20
13
7
1.4
Sydney Underground
2
3
16
15
1
0.2
Singapore Sword
2
3
12
20
-8
-1.6
KL Taufan
1
4
10
22
-12
-2.4
Dubai Mirage
1
4
10
24
-14
-2.8

DOA-F
DOA Female was a stir fry of mixed results, with most of the women beating each other in what were totally unpredicted results the 2 front runners are a mile ahead of the pack. Sydney once again takes the crown in the DOA-F division with Seoul not far behind.

DOA - Female
Pan Asia Group Play 08


Team
Win
Loss
For
Against
Dif
I/M
Sydney Underground
5
0
25
5
20
4
Seoul Jinwha
4
1
21
7
14
2.8
KL Taufan
3
2
17
13
4
0.8
Wuhan Dragon
2
3
14
21
-7
-1.4
Singapore Sword
1
4
9
20
-11
-2.2
Dubai Mirage
0
5
5
25
-20
-4

FIFA 08
With the goalie locked on world class it was always going to be a tough ask for Fifa players to score high numbers of goals, compared to the other games the difference between the top and the bottom is a very small spread. However once again Seoul led the way in the Fifa department with Dubai and Sydney trailing behind and Singapore uncharacteristically having a tough tournament.

Fifa 08
Pan Asia Group Play 08


Team
Win
Loss
For
Against
Dif
I/M
Seoul Jinwha
5
0
10
2
8
1.6
Wuhan Dragon
3
2
12
7
5
1
Singapore Sword
3
2
12
9
3
0.6
KL Taufan
3
2
13
12
1
0.2
Sydney Underground
0
5
11
17
-6
-1.2
Dubai mirage
1
4
8
19
-11
-2.2

Seoul Jinwha V Wuhan Dragon
Seoul Jinwha were clear favorites heading into the match against Wuhan Dragon on the final day after beating them comfortably in the group stage, however a DOA meltdown saw the game quite quickly slip out of reach for the Koreans. After a 5 to 0 whitewash in their first game Kindfox had shown great improvement throughout the tournament and managed to restrict Sarafan’s winning margin to just 1 point. However it was in DOA-Female that the biggest surprise would come with Wuhan’s Catpower defeating her Korean counterpart by 5-2 completing what was a massive turnaround from the team’s earlier match. The first time these teams met Korea walked away with a +9 point swing in their favor from DOA M&F, however in the semi final Wuhan managed to grab a +2 points differential at the end of the DOA matchups securing them the semi final win.




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#1

May 11, 2008 at 03:52 AM CDT

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Great work guys on everything except Fifa o.O, what happend there?

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May 11, 2008 at 04:28 AM CDT

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woooo

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May 11, 2008 at 05:45 AM CDT

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Great Read

U guys played well over in the big CHINA!!!

Lets see how u go in LA... expecting wins

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May 11, 2008 at 05:54 AM CDT

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fifa hmm.....otherwise looks great

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May 11, 2008 at 07:08 AM CDT

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come on guys..harry did a good job..give him credits and he did defended well all the way

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May 11, 2008 at 07:46 AM CDT

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Referenced post #5 by Xtr3me3
come on guys..harry did a good job..give him credits and he did defended well all the way
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True That!!

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May 11, 2008 at 08:58 AM CDT

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nice read ben

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May 11, 2008 at 09:32 AM CDT

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nice...good to see the results laid out like that

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May 11, 2008 at 11:02 AM CDT

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Nice stats.. I love stats

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#10

May 12, 2008 at 02:30 AM CDT

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17 goals conceded in 5 matches? Am I reading that right? Far out! Don't love that stat!

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May 12, 2008 at 02:34 AM CDT

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Penalty Shootouts count as 1 point each in Fifa, hence emphasizing the point differential and not the pure numbers.

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May 12, 2008 at 04:05 AM CDT

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Thanks for clearing that up for me. Just begs the question how many penalty shoot-outs he was involved in.

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May 12, 2008 at 04:19 AM CDT

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two penalty shootouts 3-4 and 6-7

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May 12, 2008 at 04:44 AM CDT

-Huk
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those stats are huge.

makes me wet, kinda.

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May 12, 2008 at 07:22 AM CDT

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So its more like 2 goals for and 6 goals against in 5 games? I thought it was impossible to concede a goal with world class goalkeepers (ok maybe not impossible, but bloody hard!).

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May 12, 2008 at 03:11 PM CDT

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Nice work! Good break down.

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#17

May 12, 2008 at 06:29 PM CDT

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the keeper is on worldclass online...
it became a game of whose long ball can make it to the striker...the style of games is nothing like the game we play online - but thats the way the cookie crumbles

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May 12, 2008 at 07:14 PM CDT

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You did good Harry, gl to you all in LA!

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May 12, 2008 at 08:02 PM CDT

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I don't believe that GK's are set at world class level online, if you take the time to compare playing AI as opposed to slogging it out online, its considerably more difficult against the pc. As for the long balls, what happened to the forbidden long-ball rule? Shocking.

I noticed you pumped up a long-ball on me last night, which somewhat suprised me, so a few minutes later, I sent one back your way slightly more effectively.

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May 12, 2008 at 09:17 PM CDT

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Jimmy-o why do you have to banter every thread.

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May 12, 2008 at 09:51 PM CDT

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Dictionary meaning for Banter - "an exchange of light, playful, teasing remarks; good-natured raillery". Do I sound like I'm being playful or good-natured? Thats amusing. I must just be bored.

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May 12, 2008 at 10:54 PM CDT

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the keepers are on world class online...the overall game against the pc is difficult even though it becomes predictable after a while.

there is no long ball rule in fifa 08 jimmy, i wasnt sure of this prior to going to asia..but this is how the game is played internationally..hence why i said the games we play here are not comparable to overseas. its just heaping the ball upfield.

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May 12, 2008 at 11:15 PM CDT

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Ok, I guess we can agree to disagree on the keeper thing. Fortunately, WCG does impose a 'long ball is forbidden' rule, which I intend to promote in the coming months. Anything before the 1/2 way line is considered to be forbidden, is my understanding.

Just out of curiosity, did Xtr3me3 employ the longball tactic?

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May 13, 2008 at 11:33 AM CDT

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jimmy. for ur info, the wcg website is using the fifa 07 rules. they never update it yet but will do soon. Theres no such thing as long ball being totally ban in fifa 08..because long balls can be blocked in fifa 08

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May 13, 2008 at 07:57 PM CDT

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Referenced post #24 by Xtr3me3
jimmy. for ur info, the wcg website is using the fifa 07 rules. they never update it yet but will do soon. Theres no such thing as long ball being totally ban in fifa 08..because long balls can be blocked in fifa 08
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Haha, so I guess that is a yes - you do flog the longball tirelessly? Disappointed. Xtr3me3, I know you're a respected player. We've even met a few times in the past on EA Online, but I can't condone that sort of style. Anyway, this is the rule set that I found on the WCG, specifically titled FIFA 08, and I will include one particular section which I will be championing..

"Long balls are forbidden. There is a zero tolerance zone located few meters before the middlefield line. However, after their own middlefield, the player is allowed to use this combination. "

Source: http://www.worldcybergames.com/6th/2008/Games/rulePDF/
WCG2008_OfficialGame_Rules_FIFA_ver_1.0.pdf

I never mentioned anything about a total longball ban Xtr3me3, that would be virtually impossible to enforce.

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